Fait Accompli

In other words; if i say that the lack of a report proves that the report doesn't exist( a very simple report,in fact a financial audit with some explanations regarding the source(s) of income),then I am wrong.According to you I am wrong because you" assume" such a report will be produced in the future.Very interesting logic!
Yes,both dioceses indulged in the "missionary" mushrooming and with the same dubious intend.
I am a member of the ROEA .But the point is not about my membership,it is about the incorrectitude of the JDC and its ways.

I think the brave anonymous#1 deserves an additional explanation.

In regard to his “argument”:

I am wrong because I said that a document that was not produced, published, acknowledged, is, for practical purposes not existent. But he (the brave anonymous#1) is right saying that such a document exist because he “assumes” the document will be produced in the future. That is some “logic”!

Secondly,”agani and again” the brave anonymous#1 seem to be interested of my membership in the ROEA. (By the way that membership was not the issue in my article.) However I gave a long explanation some time ago, but the courageous anonymous # 1 didn’t get it.....

I am an Orthodox faithful in good order, according to my spiritual father, and a supporter of the “Dormition Monastery”. A Monastery that is under the omophorion of the Mt.Rev.Archbishop Nathaniel. Consequently I am a member of the “Vatra” Episcopate.

I am not afraid or ashamed to sign my name and to present my credentials. The brave anonymous is to coward not to do the same.

The existence of a document is proved by its material, positive condition of being, that is if it is confirmed; in the media, or other ways.
The “missionary” contraption was asked, to provide the mentioned document (financial records) in “no more than ninety days”, in October 2010 by the “Vatra” Episcopate Congress. There was no confirmation about such a document being provided and consequently from an objective point of view, the document does not exist. I have no idea why a conspiracy (or conspiracies) is assumed around such a simple, basic, fact. The most important things are always obvious. In this case it is obvious that the document was not provided otherwise its existence should have been acknowledged. Why the document was not produced, as I said, is anyone’ guess. But, my dear ‘fiercely brave anonymous”, what you ask me is to prove the negative; i.e that nobody leaks to me information. Again I pray what information? That the document was not produced? I would like you to know that asking anyone to prove the negative is immoral. You should be aware of that! But to hint that a “certain” member of the Archbishop staff is dishonest, dear fierce brave anonymous, is low! Discrediting the good moral name of that “certain” person, the only thing he has!, is a sin. Be aware!

In the area I live there is no parish of the “Vatra” Episcopate and consequently, from 1986, I attend the church services of the “Dormition Monastery” and I am considered a faithful in good standing. I was considered as such when, year after year, since 1986 until 2009, I published the main articles for the “Solia” almanacs, was, during the same period of time, a constant contributor to “Solia” and provided ,in Archbishop Nathaniel’s words,” For two decades ,Mr. Nemoianu has been giving invaluable assistance to the Episcopate.” If that does not qualify me as a “member” of the “Vatra” Episcopate so be it! But you should notice that my only “sin” was that I remained loyal to what the “Vatra” Episcopate had professed until 2009.I did not change my opinions. The members of the JDC changed theirs and, in doing so, they proved not whose friends they are but they proved what sort of friends they are. I was born in Romania and in my writings I promoted the perennial Romanian values. I am also an Orthodox and I confess that Orthodoxy is not about an ethnic background but about Faith. It is my strong belief that Orthodoxy should be, in the New World, autocephalous as it is in all the other parts of the world. I confess that Orthodoxy should be as autocephalous in the New World as it is in Romania, no more and no less. I also believe that if some Orthodox entities would subject themselves to foreign hierarchies those entities would be no more than appendices of those hierarchs. In such a case American Orthodox faithful would be fewer but personally I will trade anytime quantity for quality. The “good stuff” is always kept in smaller receptacles! But if you are happy considering me not a member of the “Vatra”Episcopate, just for the sake of it, so be it. If I am not a “member”, what would be changed?
I still am qualified and required by my job, to express my opinion(s) about the evolution, past and present, of the Romanian-American community. I still am of the opinion and still will express the opinion that the project to subordinate the Romanian-American orthodox entities to the Romanian, yes, cleptocratic, Patriarchate, is drivel. I still am not ashamed to sign my name.
One last question I will ask you.
It seems to you reasonable to use such a disproportionate effort in inventing arguments ad hominem useful? Why do not you try to address arguments? Or it is because you do not have such arguments.

In my article I just stated that no document regarding the financial activity of the communist contraption was produced. After that I said that that happened because the contraption is “unwilling or unable” to produce the documents and that the cause(s) of that fact are “anyone’s guess”.
In the statement of clarification published on the “Vatra” Episcopate site (October 2010) it is said that such a document was to be produced no later than after ninety days. Speculating around details of procedure is not my job. The details of the game played inside the JDC and its accomplices, the hot air they issue periodically, and so on, is of no interest to me. I just said that ninety days means ninety days, three months. My dear fiercely brave anonymous, I have news for you: words have meaning! I just said, and stand to it, that a new game is in progress and promoted by those who seek subordination toward the Romanian cleptocratic Patriarchate: the policy of fait accompli.
I didn’t speculate and could not speculate around a document that doesn’t exits, for all practical purpose.
But you clearly suggested that “information” (?!) was provided to me by a member of the “Vatra “chancery or by a member of the due diligence committee. (What information? That a document does not exist? Please!) That was a flat lie! It was also an attempt to attack the moral credentials of a “certain” member in the “Vatra” chancery. Do not play coy! Both you and I know whom you tried to attack! This action of yours I called low(and was low!) and about this action I said and warned you, and I do this again: that is a sin that will visit you!
I do not insult and threaten nobody. (I was threatened and insulted by members of JDC.The fact that I can not care less about their opinions is a different story. The fact that they are pretty much , “useful, let say, tools” ,for one day, is a story that will be told pretty soon.)
I just express the strong belief that the New World is entitled and deserve Orthodox autocephaly as the entities of the Old World. I also believe that loyalty to the New World is not optional. And by the way.
You tortured yourself with a long and uncalled for explanation about being a “voting member” in the “Vatra” Episcopate. Rest assured, I never yearned or yearn for such a dubious “quality”. Would have been so easy to achieve and would have proved so empty. Proving some spine and moral resolve prove to be a much more difficult task and that is my ambition.

It seems that you are a fierce partisan of innuendos and of interpretation. This propensity is proof you are no professional. Let me tell you a few basics.
In historical research, in journalism, in legal procedures, in any bona fide debate, a document whose existence in not acknowledged, a document that is not produced and can not be produced, and such a “document” is non exitent.That is not a matter of debate, it is a fact.
In the meantime you seem to be interested to “debate” your own fantasies. Here, in this context, the comments were about a text I posted on ocanews.
In that text I said that a financial document regarding the communist contraption, so called ROAA, was not acknowledged, not produced and consistently non existent. According to the Statement of the “Vatra”’ Congress such a document was to be produced in ninety days. The statement was posted in October 2010.In my text posted on ocanews I said that until July 1st, 2011 such a document was not acknowledged and consequently, for the debate about the subordination toward the Romanian cleptocratic Patriarchate, the document was not existent. I continued saying that why the document was not produced is anyone’s guess.
From this you said that I commented a “document”(again a “document”, I correctly said, that on July 1st,2011 was not existent) and that was proof that someone leaked the information(?!) to me and that such a “leaker” is or a member of the “Vatra” s chancery or a member of the due diligence committee.
I invited you to desist plying coy. Both you and I know very well whom you tried to denigrate by way of innuendo and I said, and I repeat, that that was low and a sin that will visit you.
But know you tell me that we have to wait to have all” the facts”. That is exactly what I will not do. I will not wait until the JDC and its cronies will complete their game. I will not wait until, under the shroud of an unholy secrecy, the history, the identity and the future of the “Vatra” Episcopate and, to some extent, of the American Orthodoxy, will be traded.
I will not wait to see the policy of fait accompli succeed.

In regard to being a “voting member” of the Vatra Episcopate.
I just said that it was and is not my ambition to have such a quality. I will be content to serve, spiritually and materially, this Episcopate in the same manner I did for almost thirty years.
Yes, I called the “voting member” quality dubious. And dubious it is because clergy like you have emptied (or anyhow tried and try very hard) it of any positive content. I would mention just a few facts.
A letter signed by the most respected and active personalities of the “Vatra” Episcopate’ past thirty years history (a letter that objected the nefarious project of subordination toward the Romanian plutocratic Patriarchate), sent in 2009, still wait for an answer. Members of the JDC and their cronies had viciously attacked that letter, of course by way of innuendo and anonymity.
The effort of the Orthodox Brotherhood, an auxiliary of the “Vatra” episcopate, to debate the nefarious project of subordination was vehemently forbidden.Forbbiden were also any comments about the same nefarious project in the Vatra’ parishes’ annual synods.
Who is in bad faith? Who fear open debates? Who is “low”? What is the point of being a “voting member”?
The quality of being a voting member in the ROEA became, as result of the JDC games, irrelevant and yes it became a dubious quality.
And a piece of advice.
Because I said that your attempt to discredit a very honest member of the “Vatra”s staff, a man who morally stand head and shoulders above the majority of the ROEA members and definitely above you and me, was “low” you called me “low” (apparently on account of naming the present quality of “voting member” of the ROEA dubious).
The game of “you too, you too” is pathetically childish, to say the very least.
You and I belong to different categories. I stand for principles and on moral values (the principles and values confessed by “Vatra” until 2009 and that continue to be confessed by its silent and silenced majority to day); you are too coward to sign your name.

I do not have to speculate if a document does not exist. If a document exists it has to pe produced. A document regarding the financial activity of the communist contraption was requested by the “Vatra” Congress in October 2010 to be produced by the communist contraption no later than in 90 days. You can check on the “Vatra’s web site the fact.
In my text I just said that such a document was not existent when I posted the text and in fact such a document was never acknowledged as being existent.
About this is nothing to “speculate”. If I am wrong you better put up or shut up!

Yes, you clearly said that “or a member of the “Vatra” chancery or a member of the diligence committee” provided me information. (Again what information? That a document does not exist? Please!)
Again I invite you do not play coy. You know very well whom you tried to discredit. You failed!

In my text, however the main topics were about the uncalled secrecy of the nefarious project of subordination toward the Romanian cleptocratic Patriarchate, about the stifling of any attempt for open debate and about the very suspect action of creating phony “missions” in area were a strong pro American Orthodoxy parish is functioning. Those topics you avoid to discuss and that is in bad faith. .
In such a context I resolved to consider the quality of “voting member” dubious.

I was a member of the St.Demetrius Church in Jackson since 1984(when I relocate to the Heritage Center).But that is absolutely of no concern to you. And just because you are so interested in my personal life even to the point to give me advices.
Frankly, coming from a coward anonymous this is at least audacious and more exactly shameless.