Misinformation and Speculation

Monday, August 8. 2011

Misinformation and Speculation

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One of the current models in physics to describe the universe posits that each turning point or decision creates another, new universe, so that there is an essentially infinite number of universes. If this is the case (which I don't think is correct), then we have all wound up in the Clown Universe.

#1 Fr. Michael on 2011-08-08 14:49

Thanks +Jonah! Well done chum! Sheeeesh!

#2 Anonymous on 2011-08-08 16:08

"By their fruit you will know them" (Matthew 7:20). Metropolitan Jonah once again shows he is either ham-fisted or duplicitous. Neither is a good, healthy or effective quality in a Christian, a bishop or a primate.

#3 Gregory on 2011-08-08 18:44

Your article incorrectly asserts that the OCA policy mandates a leave or suspension upon allegations of misconduct. This is incorrect. It is at the discretion of the ruling bishop. Suspension is only mandated in case of child sexual abuse or cases of a criminal nature.

(Editor's note: Thanks for the clarification.)

#4 Anonymous on 2011-08-08 19:39

We certainly made a wrong turn somewhere!

#5 Gail Sheppard on 2011-08-08 20:57

This isn't the real news story of the day in the OCA.

Two mistakes have been made.

Overt, unnecessary actions result in covert, necessary actions.

It is sad times for the OCA; she will decline.

#6 Daniel E. Fall on 2011-08-08 22:14

Metropolitan Jonah is doing what he feels is appropriate and he needs to be supported. We shouldn't rush to judgment based upon just a few questionable "facts." There were rumors.....regarding Archimandrite Zachaeus for several years. To my knowledge they were just rumors. No one ever stepped forward with any hard evidence. Perhaps there is such "hard" evidence now and that is why the metropolitan and chancellor have acted. Quite honestly, no one really knows.

(Editor's note: That is why an investigation is necessary.)

#7 Anonymous on 2011-08-09 05:53

Mark,

Can you please clarify something for me?

Is it or is it not true that Fr. Zacchaeus' attorney, Mr. Vladimir Berezansky, is actually the son of Fr. Vladimir Berzonsky of Ohio?

Thank you,
Michael

(Editor's note: Yes, he is. He uses the original spelling of his family's last name, which is much more common in Russia, where he has lived for many years. He represented Fr. Zacchaeus earlier during his testimony to the SIC during the Time of Troubles.)

#8 michael geeza on 2011-08-09 07:17

So is this the Sexual Misconduct issue that the Metropolitan was not addressing in accordance with OCA policy and which was a part of the Fr Garklavs problem, or was that another issue (Bishop Seraphim?)?

(Editor's note: No. This issue occured after the SMPAC report was written.)

#9 Rachel Andreyev on 2011-08-09 08:37

Mark,

Shouldn't that fact alone have precluded Fr. Vladimir Berzonsky from serving on the original investigative committee chaired by the late Archbishop Job?

I remember reading that Mr. Vladimir Berezansky was Fr. Zacchaeus' attorney at the time the infamous video tape concerning Fr. Zacchaeus and Robert Kondratick was recorded.

Didn't anyone think this was a conflict of interest at that time?

I'd like to know your take on this.

Michael

(Editor's note: No, you have confused two different SIC committees, and conflated timing. First, Fr. Berzonsky was on the first SIC Committee, which resigned: it was the second, of which he was not a member, which much later, eventually took testimony from Fr. Zacchaeus, who by that time had acquired Fr. Berzonsky's son as his lawyer. There was no conflict of interest in the first instance. )

#10 michael geeza on 2011-08-09 11:44

What's the big deal? Wood got into some kind of trouble in Moscow.... Let him stay there and replace him with a tried and true representative of the OCA....

#11 Anonymous on 2011-08-09 12:25

This is the modus operandi of MJ.

Officially, he acknowledges the policies formulated in regard to SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.

He even wants to appear more strict than the HOLY SYNOD.

Actually, behind the scenes . . .
He undermines implementation of the SEXUAL MISCONDUCT POLICIES and undermines the SYNOD.

Zacchaeus is simply one of many examples which could be given.

Lord, have mercy.

#12 anonymous on 2011-08-10 07:37

Mark,

Is it true that you were removed from the Midwest Diocesan Council? If so, what was the reason given?

(Editor's note: Please see the article on the front page. All is explained there in their own words.)

#13 Anonymous on 2011-08-10 11:25

Well, here we go again, HB interfering in a sexual misconduct investigation.

Why does he support potential predators?

(Editor's note: I think you mean "alleged predators", not "potential predators". And there is nothing wrong with supporting people "alleged" to have done something, until it is established they did it. It is only wrong to interfere in the investigation so as to skewer the outcome. )

#14 Anonymous on 2011-08-12 08:16

I think the editor meant skew, not skewer. But so much skewering gets done that ....

#15 Fr. George Washburn on 2011-08-13 14:32

Not so sure - but this all sounds too familiar to the old Archimandrite Isidore scandal. Isn't it time we help rehabilitate these people and get them the help they need instead of making them out to be monsters? Fr. Isidore was a victim of his situation and acted out in response to that. He didn't get proper help; who knows where he is now. These people can be good servants of the church AND in many cases have given their all and ruined their health in order to do the best to be so. So, I think we should all pray for Fr. Zacchaeus and ask God to get him through this ordeal so that he doesn't turn into another Fr. Isidore. Off the map, forgotten and unused by the church. These are talented people with problems that the church could fix if only it were willing to put out the effort.

(Editor's note: Fr. Isidore is "neither forgotten, off the map or unused". He is serving at an OCA parish in Oregon, with the blessing of Metropolitan Jonah and Bishop Benjamin.)

#16 Orthodox American on 2011-08-16 19:04

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